Notes Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:36), (326:35). On 21 Nov 1997, Todd A. Farmerie posted the following regarding newresearch on this family:
1a.Fredolon, Count of Toulouse, succeeded by brother: 1b.Raymond I, Count of Toulouse 2a.Bernard, Count of Toulouse (attempts have been made to make Raymond I, Count of Pallars and Ribagorza son of Bernard (based primarily on nomenclature, but I don't buy it.) 2b.Eudes, Count of Toulouse [i.e this individual] 3a.Raymond II, Count of Toulouse 4a.Raymond III Pons, Count of Toulouse 3b.Ermengaud, Count of Rouergue 4b.Raymond, Count of Rouergue It was Raymond of Rouergue who married Bertha and was father of Raymondand grandfather of Hugh of Rouergue. Raymond III Pons married a Guinilda,and has traditionally been shown as father or grandfather of the Williamin question (the intervening Pons was actually a brother of William, and never Count). Guinilda continued to appear as Raymond Pons'widow much later. Also Raymond of Rouergue appears in some officialcapacity, and a minority of authors have suggested that Raymond Pons diedchildless (or at least sonless) and that Raymond of Rouergue succeeded tothe County of Toulouse. We now also have that previously misplacedRaymond, husband of Adelaide and father of William, who can not bepositively identified in any contemporary charters. What we are left withis massive confusion. One author (of the AB article) goes out on a limband claims that Raymond, husband of Adelaide, was son of Raymond of Rouergue by an earlier wife than Bertha (and hence distinctfrom half-brother Raymond II, Count of Rouergue), while the author of theMoyen Age article is more cautious, giving this version equal weight to amore traditional descent from Raymond Pons, with the new Raymond as RP'sson. This question clearly requires a more detailed reevaluation thanwhat has been given it thus far.
